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Feb 08, 2021

Show Me the Money: Julian Brown RGD In Conversation with Dan Mall

Julian Brown RGD

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Julian talks money with Dan Mall, Founder and CEO of SuperFriendly, and author of Pricing Design. They’ll chat about why hourly rates don’t work, and what clients are really willing to pay for. Watch Julian try to get on super-friendly terms with Dan, so he’ll dish on all things money: his worst mistakes, his most awkward conversations and his best, most practical advice.

Julian Brown RGD, Owner & Creative Direction at ON THE CHASE! Motion Design in Toronto, ON
Julian Brown is On The Chase! One guy. Ten years. 200+ projects. Collaborating with tons of amazing clients: Cineplex, Deloitte, Elections Canada, MaRS, Martin Prosperity Institute, Pentax, Shoppers Drug Mart, Ubisoft, WWF and many more. His work has been awarded by The Webbys, Adobe, Applied Arts, RGD & Summit. Julian is a speaker on motion design, running a solo studio, talking about money... and sometimes telling people why their offices really f*cking suck. He hosts a webinar series for RGD titled "Show Me The Money" and contributes regularly to discussion panels.

Dan Mall, Founder & CEO of SuperFriendly
Dan is a creative director and advisor from Philly. He’s the founder and CEO of SuperFriendly, a design collaborative that helps in-house teams make better digital products with design systems. Dan is an enthralled husband & dad, author of Pricing Design, and co-founder of Arcade, a fun way to manage design tokens for enterprise teams. He writes about design and other issues on Twitter and on his industry-recognized site,

Julian Brown RGD

ON THE CHASE! Motion Design

Julian Brown is ON THE CHASE! Julian creates ‘motion-first’ brands and content for smart clients (Sport Chek, University of Toronto, Cineplex, World Wildlife Fund). His motion design & branding projects have been awarded by Graphis, The Webbys, Adobe and many more. Julian is a speaker on motion design, running a solo studio, and, sometimes, telling people why their offices f*cking suck. He serves as a VP on the Board of Directors for RGD, Canada’s largest design association. Julian is a York/Sheridan Toronto alumni, a world traveller, and this one time he starred alongside his dog in a TV ad for pet food. It was adorable.